MerciesOfInjustices
02-11 11:15 PM
Thanks, Jay for setting the record straight for the nth time! Well said!
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dpp
07-21 09:12 AM
Yes, you are right. It shouldn't take years to make a decision even if it is complicated. I think they may be not working on those cases at all. That may be the reason, they didn't comeup with any decision. It will be good if DOL gives the operating procedures and comeup with fair action on what they are really doing.
My case was filed in 2002 under traditional labor certification. DOL never questioned anything or asked for any clarifications (so I assume there were no complications). The job was advertised in last April (it was a little newspaper advertisement with few lines and very generic job requirements). There were no resumes received. But still I have not received my labor approval. So what baffles me most is why has the DOL been not able to taken any decision on my case even after 5 years. One of my friends who applied in traditional labor two years after me has already received his LC. Let us say, for argument sake, the case was complicated. How complicated can it be to be delayed by several years, not months? We probably would get answers to these questions only if we drag the DOL to court and make them explain.
My case was filed in 2002 under traditional labor certification. DOL never questioned anything or asked for any clarifications (so I assume there were no complications). The job was advertised in last April (it was a little newspaper advertisement with few lines and very generic job requirements). There were no resumes received. But still I have not received my labor approval. So what baffles me most is why has the DOL been not able to taken any decision on my case even after 5 years. One of my friends who applied in traditional labor two years after me has already received his LC. Let us say, for argument sake, the case was complicated. How complicated can it be to be delayed by several years, not months? We probably would get answers to these questions only if we drag the DOL to court and make them explain.
legalservice
10-08 04:40 PM
I have been laid off yesterday. My employment ends Dec.
My 180 days expire Jan. My company said they will not revoke the I-140.
So can anyone explain the steps that needs to be taken by company B after they transfer my h1, for time period Dec thru Jan.
Can I use ac21 afterwards? and
Can myself or my wife work on the EAD that will come to our home address?.
What else needs to be done by company B.
Will we just get our green card in email.
If a query comes should I prove that I'm employed with the former company or is it to sufficient to show employment with similar position alone?
In short if the former company does not revoke I-140 and I take care of the status thru H1b transfer for the 1 month to hit 180 days, will I need to reapply for the GC?
Please advice to what you think is right based on your best knowledge.
You should be OK as long as you don't get a query. If the query is for the I-140, just send them the information they ask for without explaining too much. If the RFE is for the I-485, hopefully, you'd be able to show that you worked 180 days for your sponsoring company. You may want to consult an immigration attorney on this one.
Disclaimer: My opinion is the result of my immigration experience and free consultations with immigration attorneys as provided through legalserviceplans.info; however, it does not constitute legal advice.
My 180 days expire Jan. My company said they will not revoke the I-140.
So can anyone explain the steps that needs to be taken by company B after they transfer my h1, for time period Dec thru Jan.
Can I use ac21 afterwards? and
Can myself or my wife work on the EAD that will come to our home address?.
What else needs to be done by company B.
Will we just get our green card in email.
If a query comes should I prove that I'm employed with the former company or is it to sufficient to show employment with similar position alone?
In short if the former company does not revoke I-140 and I take care of the status thru H1b transfer for the 1 month to hit 180 days, will I need to reapply for the GC?
Please advice to what you think is right based on your best knowledge.
You should be OK as long as you don't get a query. If the query is for the I-140, just send them the information they ask for without explaining too much. If the RFE is for the I-485, hopefully, you'd be able to show that you worked 180 days for your sponsoring company. You may want to consult an immigration attorney on this one.
Disclaimer: My opinion is the result of my immigration experience and free consultations with immigration attorneys as provided through legalserviceplans.info; however, it does not constitute legal advice.
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ues_nyc13
02-22 12:50 PM
Hey I have the same issue - did you have any issues to get ur visa stamped for company A. I am leaving the country for a 2week vacation and have to get my visa stamped. I never joined compnay B even though the visa transfer was approved last august. I am still working for company A. A reply would be appreciated. Thanks
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learning01
03-17 04:19 PM
Frist Pushes For Quick Vote On Immigration
Majority Leader Bypasses Committee
By Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post Staff Writer, Friday, March 17, 2006; A04
Frustrated by the Senate Judiciary Committee's slow progress on politically sensitive immigration legislation, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) introduced his own bill last night to secure the nation's borders and crack down on illegal immigration.
Frist's bill will go directly to the full Senate. But he said he will allow Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) to substitute a committee bill if Specter's panel could approve one March 27. Otherwise, the majority leader will stick to a strict, two-week schedule to finish work on what he conceded would be "as challenging a bill as any we'll have to address this year."
The majority leader's power move stunned committee Republicans and Democrats, who have been struggling for three weeks to reach agreement on a comprehensive immigration bill. Specter said he objected to the maneuver.
"It would be chaos on the floor to have this bill debated without the committee acting first," Specter said yesterday afternoon, only to grudgingly accept Frist's move in the evening.
Some Republican aides said they believed presidential politics were at work. Frist, a prospective candidate for 2008, left out of his bill the guest-worker program that President Bush has demanded and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) -- a potential White House rival -- has championed. Such a program is unpopular with many conservative voters, who see it as amnesty for illegal immigrants. Many Republicans believe a new law to get tough on illegal immigrants is one of the few pieces of legislation that must be passed before the November elections if the GOP is to maintain the allegiance of conservative voters.
Frist said he was motivated by a belief that only prompt Senate action will allow Senate and House negotiators to reach a compromise on a final bill this year. The House passed in December a border security bill that did not include a guest-worker program.
Senators from both parties have come to near-agreement on provisions bolstering the U.S. border patrol, adding new technologies such as unmanned aerial vehicles and raising penalties on illegal immigrants and those who aid them. Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John Cornyn (R-Tex.) neared agreement yesterday on a guest-worker program that could smooth the way to bipartisan passage of a Judiciary Committee bill when lawmakers return from a week-long break next week.
Under the deal, Kennedy would agree that illegal immigrants who qualify for a guest-worker visa would have to go to their home countries for a year before applying for a visa extension of three or four additional years. But, Senate aides said, that one-year return could be waived if guest workers' employers said their continued labor was necessary or if a guest worker could prove a consistent work history.
With Democrats, Bush and many Republicans favoring a guest-worker program, immigration advocates say no immigration bill can get out of the Senate without one. But House opponents say they have commitments from Republican leaders that no guest-worker program will be considered on the House floor this year.
� 2006 The Washington Post Company
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/16/AR2006031601919.html
Majority Leader Bypasses Committee
By Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post Staff Writer, Friday, March 17, 2006; A04
Frustrated by the Senate Judiciary Committee's slow progress on politically sensitive immigration legislation, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) introduced his own bill last night to secure the nation's borders and crack down on illegal immigration.
Frist's bill will go directly to the full Senate. But he said he will allow Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) to substitute a committee bill if Specter's panel could approve one March 27. Otherwise, the majority leader will stick to a strict, two-week schedule to finish work on what he conceded would be "as challenging a bill as any we'll have to address this year."
The majority leader's power move stunned committee Republicans and Democrats, who have been struggling for three weeks to reach agreement on a comprehensive immigration bill. Specter said he objected to the maneuver.
"It would be chaos on the floor to have this bill debated without the committee acting first," Specter said yesterday afternoon, only to grudgingly accept Frist's move in the evening.
Some Republican aides said they believed presidential politics were at work. Frist, a prospective candidate for 2008, left out of his bill the guest-worker program that President Bush has demanded and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) -- a potential White House rival -- has championed. Such a program is unpopular with many conservative voters, who see it as amnesty for illegal immigrants. Many Republicans believe a new law to get tough on illegal immigrants is one of the few pieces of legislation that must be passed before the November elections if the GOP is to maintain the allegiance of conservative voters.
Frist said he was motivated by a belief that only prompt Senate action will allow Senate and House negotiators to reach a compromise on a final bill this year. The House passed in December a border security bill that did not include a guest-worker program.
Senators from both parties have come to near-agreement on provisions bolstering the U.S. border patrol, adding new technologies such as unmanned aerial vehicles and raising penalties on illegal immigrants and those who aid them. Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John Cornyn (R-Tex.) neared agreement yesterday on a guest-worker program that could smooth the way to bipartisan passage of a Judiciary Committee bill when lawmakers return from a week-long break next week.
Under the deal, Kennedy would agree that illegal immigrants who qualify for a guest-worker visa would have to go to their home countries for a year before applying for a visa extension of three or four additional years. But, Senate aides said, that one-year return could be waived if guest workers' employers said their continued labor was necessary or if a guest worker could prove a consistent work history.
With Democrats, Bush and many Republicans favoring a guest-worker program, immigration advocates say no immigration bill can get out of the Senate without one. But House opponents say they have commitments from Republican leaders that no guest-worker program will be considered on the House floor this year.
� 2006 The Washington Post Company
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/16/AR2006031601919.html
GCBy3000
07-21 10:00 AM
There is no way for a bank to know when you leave. You might leave on vacation or for a break. As per US law you can come to US after a year break outside US. How does anyone could know whether you are on one month vacation or in one year vacation. I dont agree with this unless it is explained clearly.
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santb1975
05-02 12:54 AM
Let us cross the 10k line first.
New total is at $9,211.
We have crossed 9K... now lets get this past 10K.
New total is at $9,211.
We have crossed 9K... now lets get this past 10K.
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munnabhai_zz
12-01 10:12 PM
How about sending flowers every day to the house, with a brief message about EB retrogression? Minimal cost, may bring good publicity...
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GCard_Dream
03-21 05:59 PM
Disagreement is one thing .. name calling is another. Anyhow, I rest my case. :p .... peace
Apart from the bad language used by some people .... I dont believe that there is any infighting .... disagreements with point of view is not infighting ... It just a primer for the points and discussions that will definitely come up when lawmakers will argue their points of view. And from that perspective it is enriching this portal forum and not denigrating it.
I welcome the discussion.
Apart from the bad language used by some people .... I dont believe that there is any infighting .... disagreements with point of view is not infighting ... It just a primer for the points and discussions that will definitely come up when lawmakers will argue their points of view. And from that perspective it is enriching this portal forum and not denigrating it.
I welcome the discussion.
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mheggade
07-15 04:10 PM
My numbers are not 100% accurate , but it gives fair sense of the current situation.
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go_guy123
02-10 05:37 PM
With a due respect, I am differ with your statement on Competeamerica. Competeamerica has always promoted H1B and EB provision together. I haven't seen any time that they promoted only H1B.
I spoke with one guy at Competeamerica and he told me that IV is neutral on H1B issue eventhough all members have came through that root. Personally I am very positive with Competeamerica and it is not good for us to speak negative for this organization.
I know CA promotes both , but issue is whether they do that equally.
I have a feeling h1b is more on agenda.
Just that you belive what they are saying....either way u will see when h1b gets increased without eb reform.
I spoke with one guy at Competeamerica and he told me that IV is neutral on H1B issue eventhough all members have came through that root. Personally I am very positive with Competeamerica and it is not good for us to speak negative for this organization.
I know CA promotes both , but issue is whether they do that equally.
I have a feeling h1b is more on agenda.
Just that you belive what they are saying....either way u will see when h1b gets increased without eb reform.
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anilsal
11-24 01:50 PM
I think if USCIS start publishing the number of applications (based on PD of course) pending for each month, then we can predict our future and life will be much easier.
We are not asking for too much and I think IV can make it happen fairly easily.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I know everyone wants to get out of this state called as "PROBATIONARY LIMBO". The real solution is to eradicate retrogression and at the earliest. For this to happen, we need some legislation in our favor.
We are not asking for too much and I think IV can make it happen fairly easily.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I know everyone wants to get out of this state called as "PROBATIONARY LIMBO". The real solution is to eradicate retrogression and at the earliest. For this to happen, we need some legislation in our favor.
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amitjoey
05-19 03:35 PM
Thank you everybody that has contributed. We need to raise $50,000 in the next 15 days. That is $3334 raised every day. Now even though this looks like a big amount to raise, with a collective effort we can do this. This is our chance to make this happen for ourselves. The alternative is just staying in limbo renewing EAD/AP every two years for atleast the next 10 years. That is an average cost of $800 every two years every member.
We need 17 members everyday contributing $200 everyday or 34 members contributing $100 everyday for the next 15 days.
We need 17 members everyday contributing $200 everyday or 34 members contributing $100 everyday for the next 15 days.
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nat23
04-16 06:03 PM
Fragomen has been great for me
It depends on which office of Fragomen you are dealing with or should I say which attorney. One of the attorneys in DC office took 8-9 months to file my labor.
It depends on which office of Fragomen you are dealing with or should I say which attorney. One of the attorneys in DC office took 8-9 months to file my labor.
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logiclife
12-10 03:17 AM
I have been member of IV since Dec 05. Probably since a couple of weeks after it was founded.
In last 2 years, I have seen many ups and downs with this org and there are numerous stories to share in my work with core and grassroots, with lobbyists and congressional staffers, with friends and colleagues.
But what has been happening in few places lately is something that those responsible should be ashamed of.
On saturday IV chapter leader in Texas Needhelp! had organized a local chapter meetup. Now you may ask, oh, another one of those. What do they do anyways?
Well, here is what we do in chapter meetups.
WE WORK.
We find groups that can be formed to meet local congressmen. We refine talking points. We share updates that we dont usually share on website. We help new members get up to speed. We sometimes get local immigration attorneys to answer questions on pro-bono basis (yes, that means free for you) to serve the community. Lawyers get free publicity, we get free legal advise. A symbiotic quid-pro-quo.
This is what happened this weekend in Plano TX (Dallas Suburb).
Now mind you, Dallas area alone has probably atleast 300 registered members. Not to mention the lurkers for whom I have a special message below(at the end).
This is what she (Needhelp) reported after chapter meetup.
Most members who were expected to show up did not. I spent whole morning preparing this, I feel guilty that I made my daughter miss her dance class and then those who had RSVPed didnt show up.
Yep. She missed an extra carricular event important to her daughter for this meetup.
Dont even get me started on those who live 10 miles from Plano Texas and dont bother responding even.
You know, when someone arranges to send you details in email and you know about it, you say you will attend and then you dont, what do you think is going to happen?
IF EAD IS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR YOU...
If EAD is the end of the road for you, then why are you still coming to this website. There are about always 600-700 people on this site during the day and about 300 people at night. Who are these people?
The truth of the matter is, the ones who dont contribute, have stopped contributing, or have never contributed funds, attended events or given anything to this org - but still keep scouring theads - are the people to be pitied. You will always be worried. "Mera kyaa hoga". (what will happen to me). Your journey wont end. Ever. Even after getting GC you will be worried about citizenship. Even after getting citizenship, there will be small itch in your head - what if my citizenship is revoked (yes it can legally happen and has happened to a WWII genocide guy in 2001-2002 timeframe, go google it and ruin your rest of the day).
The truth of the matter is, right now, even after getting EAD, then only action you have taken is either stopped contributing funds, or stopped giving any of your time to this org.
But your life has not changed one bit.
You probably wont even use your EAD or change employers. You will constanly be worried about your namecheck, your fingerprints, your this, your that. You will be worried about new inquiries and RFEs coming on your approved 140 (approved years ago) during 485 processing. (yes that can happen too). You will be worried about accidental rejection of 485 (that's why most of the people wont even use EAD and continue on H1 to preserve option of using appeals process to appeal 485 rejection on H1). You will be worried about USCIS not buying your AC21 portability and sending your RFEs to prove that the ported job is "Same or similar" in nature. You will be worried about being unemployed for few weeks at a wrong time just about when 485 RFE comes and you dont have a letter to show you have a job offer to justify 485 approval.
So basically the struggle hasnt ended. Yes, keeping looking at your EAD in your wallet every 3 minutes, its still miserable.
So why not act to end the misery rather than scour forums and comiserate. Is it that much fun to comiserate and is it that much pain to co-operate?
THE LURKERS ON THIS SITE WHO WILL NEVER REGISTER OR DO ANYTHING AT ALL.
Not to mention how many cowards (yes, cowards who think that by registeration on this website, the USCIS will send a black helicopter to their home and abduct and deport them, the ones who have watched the movie "enemy of the state" too many times and think that there is a Jon Voight out there who has nothing to do both to pluck legal skilled immigrants and throw them out). I have a special message for those lurkers who need this website and visit it everyday but dont have the balls to register, share email and participate in any activity. This isnt about a chapter meetup, or your greencard or even this org. Your reluctance is not a reflection of your over-cautiousness. Its a reflection of your character. You will eventually get greencard, become citizens even, but this kind of cowardly attitude will made you lead a boring, uneventful and mediocre life.
And by the way, if the government was really after you, they would have already gotten to you for browsing this site too. Dont you think they (the black helicopter guys) can find our who you are while you are lurking? Ever heard of IP addresses? If I can find that out then they can do much more.
In last 2 years, I have seen many ups and downs with this org and there are numerous stories to share in my work with core and grassroots, with lobbyists and congressional staffers, with friends and colleagues.
But what has been happening in few places lately is something that those responsible should be ashamed of.
On saturday IV chapter leader in Texas Needhelp! had organized a local chapter meetup. Now you may ask, oh, another one of those. What do they do anyways?
Well, here is what we do in chapter meetups.
WE WORK.
We find groups that can be formed to meet local congressmen. We refine talking points. We share updates that we dont usually share on website. We help new members get up to speed. We sometimes get local immigration attorneys to answer questions on pro-bono basis (yes, that means free for you) to serve the community. Lawyers get free publicity, we get free legal advise. A symbiotic quid-pro-quo.
This is what happened this weekend in Plano TX (Dallas Suburb).
Now mind you, Dallas area alone has probably atleast 300 registered members. Not to mention the lurkers for whom I have a special message below(at the end).
This is what she (Needhelp) reported after chapter meetup.
Most members who were expected to show up did not. I spent whole morning preparing this, I feel guilty that I made my daughter miss her dance class and then those who had RSVPed didnt show up.
Yep. She missed an extra carricular event important to her daughter for this meetup.
Dont even get me started on those who live 10 miles from Plano Texas and dont bother responding even.
You know, when someone arranges to send you details in email and you know about it, you say you will attend and then you dont, what do you think is going to happen?
IF EAD IS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR YOU...
If EAD is the end of the road for you, then why are you still coming to this website. There are about always 600-700 people on this site during the day and about 300 people at night. Who are these people?
The truth of the matter is, the ones who dont contribute, have stopped contributing, or have never contributed funds, attended events or given anything to this org - but still keep scouring theads - are the people to be pitied. You will always be worried. "Mera kyaa hoga". (what will happen to me). Your journey wont end. Ever. Even after getting GC you will be worried about citizenship. Even after getting citizenship, there will be small itch in your head - what if my citizenship is revoked (yes it can legally happen and has happened to a WWII genocide guy in 2001-2002 timeframe, go google it and ruin your rest of the day).
The truth of the matter is, right now, even after getting EAD, then only action you have taken is either stopped contributing funds, or stopped giving any of your time to this org.
But your life has not changed one bit.
You probably wont even use your EAD or change employers. You will constanly be worried about your namecheck, your fingerprints, your this, your that. You will be worried about new inquiries and RFEs coming on your approved 140 (approved years ago) during 485 processing. (yes that can happen too). You will be worried about accidental rejection of 485 (that's why most of the people wont even use EAD and continue on H1 to preserve option of using appeals process to appeal 485 rejection on H1). You will be worried about USCIS not buying your AC21 portability and sending your RFEs to prove that the ported job is "Same or similar" in nature. You will be worried about being unemployed for few weeks at a wrong time just about when 485 RFE comes and you dont have a letter to show you have a job offer to justify 485 approval.
So basically the struggle hasnt ended. Yes, keeping looking at your EAD in your wallet every 3 minutes, its still miserable.
So why not act to end the misery rather than scour forums and comiserate. Is it that much fun to comiserate and is it that much pain to co-operate?
THE LURKERS ON THIS SITE WHO WILL NEVER REGISTER OR DO ANYTHING AT ALL.
Not to mention how many cowards (yes, cowards who think that by registeration on this website, the USCIS will send a black helicopter to their home and abduct and deport them, the ones who have watched the movie "enemy of the state" too many times and think that there is a Jon Voight out there who has nothing to do both to pluck legal skilled immigrants and throw them out). I have a special message for those lurkers who need this website and visit it everyday but dont have the balls to register, share email and participate in any activity. This isnt about a chapter meetup, or your greencard or even this org. Your reluctance is not a reflection of your over-cautiousness. Its a reflection of your character. You will eventually get greencard, become citizens even, but this kind of cowardly attitude will made you lead a boring, uneventful and mediocre life.
And by the way, if the government was really after you, they would have already gotten to you for browsing this site too. Dont you think they (the black helicopter guys) can find our who you are while you are lurking? Ever heard of IP addresses? If I can find that out then they can do much more.
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krishmunn
05-23 09:38 AM
I have been successfull to motivate a co-worker (EB3-ROW) to contribute to this cause.
Guys, remember not only India/China are suffering, EB3-ROW is also impacted . Forward this to anyone from EB3-ROW that you know
Guys, remember not only India/China are suffering, EB3-ROW is also impacted . Forward this to anyone from EB3-ROW that you know
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mhb
07-05 11:42 AM
http://digg.com/politics/Reversal_Frustrates_Green_Card_Applicants
PLEASE DIGG!!!
DUGG!!!
PLEASE DIGG!!!
DUGG!!!
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garybanz
09-20 02:12 PM
Good Idea, Jayram.
Having even a couple of fill time staffers will make a big difference...but will also require bigger budget.
Does any one know how much IV collets in recurring contributions? How much did we collect for the DC rally and how much did we spend?
San Jose was a local CA event planned almost spontaneously. DC was an event planned months in advance. People were offered Free ride, Free plane fare, Free food (in Gurdwaras). Yet how many participated?
I have been refraining from posting on this point, as I wouldn't like to belittle the contributions of the strong team from California and the numbers they brought to the rally.
But let's face it. CA has more EB immigrants than the next three. Look at the recent 2006 Performance report from DoL (available at Mathew Oh website). CA had 21,000+ labor petitions compared to NY - 7,000, NJ - 7,000(?) , TX - 5000. As you can see CA scores more than the next three states put together.
If 40 people participate from NY, it's as good as 120 from Cal. Percentagewise it would be the same. If 40 peope walk in Michigan ( 2000 Labor petitions) statistically it would surpass CA, percentagewise.
It's a known thing that only 5%-10% of the population participates actively in the most successful movements be it American Revolution or struggle for Indian Independence. We haven't reached that critical mass yet ( at the regional level)
There is an enthusiasm right now. But how long before the fatigue sets in? Rallies need to be minimal, held with certain strategic target and should serve some specific purpose.
Weekend rallies attracting bigger crowds is a myth. Be prepared to listen to reasons like - Shucks I have to mow the lawn, take kids to Bharatanatyam dance classes, I have relatives over for lunch etc.
With that logic if we hold rallies over the LONG weekends, we should attract bigger crowd, since people have 2-3 days to relax afterwards. And since people already plan to visit Orlando, LA etc to visit Disneyland, Universal etc., if we can hold rallies there we should attract the highest possible crowd. Do you think my idea will work?
I agree with you 100%. Question is - who'll bell the cat? Who will take the lead and sacrifice their time, family life etc. to plan, organize and conduct these?
We need a fearless leader like Aman Kapoor, who can motivate and inspire people to participate, in every state. Where can we find them?
How about taking this to the next step and hire paid fulltime staff who can
1) call people and request donations
2) organize meetings
3) stimulate the local chapters
4) promote IV
..... and the list can go on.....and do all the things necessary to convert all propects to customers.
How about having full time offices in DC? This office will run on donations.
Finally, how about instead of anonymous members make this a place where everyone has to provide their personal details etc.
Anyways, I am just ranting.
Having even a couple of fill time staffers will make a big difference...but will also require bigger budget.
Does any one know how much IV collets in recurring contributions? How much did we collect for the DC rally and how much did we spend?
San Jose was a local CA event planned almost spontaneously. DC was an event planned months in advance. People were offered Free ride, Free plane fare, Free food (in Gurdwaras). Yet how many participated?
I have been refraining from posting on this point, as I wouldn't like to belittle the contributions of the strong team from California and the numbers they brought to the rally.
But let's face it. CA has more EB immigrants than the next three. Look at the recent 2006 Performance report from DoL (available at Mathew Oh website). CA had 21,000+ labor petitions compared to NY - 7,000, NJ - 7,000(?) , TX - 5000. As you can see CA scores more than the next three states put together.
If 40 people participate from NY, it's as good as 120 from Cal. Percentagewise it would be the same. If 40 peope walk in Michigan ( 2000 Labor petitions) statistically it would surpass CA, percentagewise.
It's a known thing that only 5%-10% of the population participates actively in the most successful movements be it American Revolution or struggle for Indian Independence. We haven't reached that critical mass yet ( at the regional level)
There is an enthusiasm right now. But how long before the fatigue sets in? Rallies need to be minimal, held with certain strategic target and should serve some specific purpose.
Weekend rallies attracting bigger crowds is a myth. Be prepared to listen to reasons like - Shucks I have to mow the lawn, take kids to Bharatanatyam dance classes, I have relatives over for lunch etc.
With that logic if we hold rallies over the LONG weekends, we should attract bigger crowd, since people have 2-3 days to relax afterwards. And since people already plan to visit Orlando, LA etc to visit Disneyland, Universal etc., if we can hold rallies there we should attract the highest possible crowd. Do you think my idea will work?
I agree with you 100%. Question is - who'll bell the cat? Who will take the lead and sacrifice their time, family life etc. to plan, organize and conduct these?
We need a fearless leader like Aman Kapoor, who can motivate and inspire people to participate, in every state. Where can we find them?
How about taking this to the next step and hire paid fulltime staff who can
1) call people and request donations
2) organize meetings
3) stimulate the local chapters
4) promote IV
..... and the list can go on.....and do all the things necessary to convert all propects to customers.
How about having full time offices in DC? This office will run on donations.
Finally, how about instead of anonymous members make this a place where everyone has to provide their personal details etc.
Anyways, I am just ranting.
snathan
07-22 11:29 AM
"exactly because of these rude attitude of hindi people i never speak hindi."
this is the choice you're talking about? :d
yes...so what
this is the choice you're talking about? :d
yes...so what
jonty_11
11-08 11:27 AM
The main issue with Dems winning is that they will use the newly gained power to furthur their cause for 2008 presidency, but bringing down teh republicans. If taht takes priority which I fear it, immigration reform may go down the drain, as they try to retract all legislations passed by Bush, like tax cuts for oil Comapnies etc. and only work on potraying Republicans in a bad light.
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