mihird
07-05 08:28 AM
Isn't that good news? Atleast we wont have to redo the medical exams if that were true.. Or do you think this is a strategic move by USCIS to be immune from any lawsuits?
I have always been of the opinioin, that the most correct thing for the USCIS to do at this point is to not return the applications, but hold them until Oct. When the window technically re-opens, just swallow everything that is on hold - the window technically only needs to open for a few seconds for that to happen.
The other thing they should also do is accept all 485 applications till the end of July and process them likewise.
Giving everyone EAD/AP benefits does not hurt....they can then line up all the 500-700K people and issue the green cards as per visa number/PD/RD availability...
I have always been of the opinioin, that the most correct thing for the USCIS to do at this point is to not return the applications, but hold them until Oct. When the window technically re-opens, just swallow everything that is on hold - the window technically only needs to open for a few seconds for that to happen.
The other thing they should also do is accept all 485 applications till the end of July and process them likewise.
Giving everyone EAD/AP benefits does not hurt....they can then line up all the 500-700K people and issue the green cards as per visa number/PD/RD availability...
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priderock
05-31 03:26 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
I_need_GC
07-01 07:36 PM
I got a RFE on my 485 on 11th April and I have responded to it. By next week it would be 60 days by which USCIS has to take some decision. What would be the status update as my PD is Aug 2006.
Is it normal to get RFE while PD is not current?
Gopi544 I was in the same boat, I also got RFE when my PD wasn't current and then got approval I think yours is also on the way.:)
Is it normal to get RFE while PD is not current?
Gopi544 I was in the same boat, I also got RFE when my PD wasn't current and then got approval I think yours is also on the way.:)
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06-02 11:10 AM
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02-11 01:30 PM
Thanks for your pledge.. Looking for the same spirit to awaken in all our members.
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
gc4me
07-01 09:41 AM
I would suggest you to enter your receipt # in case status tracking system in USCIS.gov and verify. You might have wrong receipt # in your profile.
Got this email again today at 9:05am
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On June 30, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283
Got this email again today at 9:05am
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On June 30, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283
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espoir
11-15 12:40 PM
Why is the December visa bulletin not available on the USCIS website ?? It still shows November as the current bulletin.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html
It does show the December Bulletin. Delete you cache/ refresh the page.
If you want to see the bulletin, go to this link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3841.html
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html
It does show the December Bulletin. Delete you cache/ refresh the page.
If you want to see the bulletin, go to this link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3841.html
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Winner
05-21 12:19 PM
There is no mention of legal EB immigration :(
I got a similar response from on of the senators I send the email to, I replied back stating that their email did not address anything about LEGAL immigrants issues, will update if and when I get a response.
I got a similar response from on of the senators I send the email to, I replied back stating that their email did not address anything about LEGAL immigrants issues, will update if and when I get a response.
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santb1975
04-28 09:01 AM
We have long ways to go.
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nk2006
09-15 10:37 AM
I think our argument is getting a bit too emotional and thought of letting it go but wanted to respond to a few points mentioned by you:
I was Dem leaning too, and I liked Hillary. But Obama has in no way been running the honorable campaign. He is using others to do his dirty job, if you think otherwise, you too have been sold on the propaganda of the left.
yesterday i was reading a commentary by Karl Rove, even he said that McCain's ads went too far. I think that says enough (BTW Karl Rove is master republican strategist whose tactics are famously credited for Bush's second term win - him commenting negatively on a republican candidate and saying that ads are going too far - it wont happen everyday unless they really went toooooo far). I havnt yet seen any sleaze tactics from dem side (yet..atleast).
when obama made a sexist remark, what did the press do? Nothing. I dont know which comment you are talking about. In presidential election time journos wait for a little gaffe and make it out of proportion - even so I dont remember any offending "sexist" comment yet. If you are referring to "lipstick on pig" comment - its laughable to see republican pundits trying to imply that is referring to Palin - he was talking about the new found "change" message and how their new campaing wont change their old policies. Incidentally McCain seems to have made the exact same comment on Hillary herself during primary season. Yeah the same press was sleeping then.
Let us see what happens if his opposition makes a even a hint of racist remark. I am sure then that the republican campaign will be pounded by every media outlet in the country.
Dont even mention about race. We all know that Obama's race is to his disadvantage - just ask elder white voters from south about the prospect of voting to a black candidate named barack obama - whether they say it explicitly or not we all know in our hearts that race does play a role in voting and it is to his disadvantage (I was listening to an NPR public forum where some people insist that Obama is muslim and that is their main concern - this despite of repeated clarifications from him saying that he is a christian and despite of a major controversy surrounding his christian pastor; I wonder if same suspicions would have persisted if its a white candidate named John Smith). The notion created by some pundits that Obama is trying to exploit his race towards his advantage is idiotic in my opinion. Being a racial minority myself with a strange name and an exotic religion (struggling to get a greencard :)) I know what it would have been taken for Obama to came to this stage. I cringe when people suggest that his success is "because" of his race - it is actually in spite of his race and in spite of his poor background (he came from even poorer background than most of members here I guess, he and his mother lived on food stamps for some time). Yes media might have gone overboard about his candidature at some point during primaries - but that honeymoon is long over and in fact these days McCain/Palin are getting a free ticket.
Again, not to say I like republican ideology, I am very left leaning in my thoughts and actions. However at this time, I see that majority of the left is leaning towards Obama just for the sake of leaning towards left, and not on the merits of candidacy.
As I mentioned earlier I am a non-voter, so dont have much stake in this election (considering my GC stage I wont be voting to either of these candidate's second term too). I was just referring to the two candidates and who is running a better campaign. As an independent observer (though slightly dem leaning as you:)) of presidential politics for last several years - I think in the last two elections - trivial/non-sensical matters overshadowed real issues and look what state the country is in. The reason for those two elections getting into trivial issues is not coincidental or is it a fluke. The propaganda artists dominate and try to "manipulate" people opinion. This time I thought it would be different and seemed different for sometime but last couple weeks the same tactics came back and they are firmly followed by McCain without even regretting. That is sad.
If I have had a vote, I would have thought about issues like economy, war, immigration, health care, et al and decided whom to vote. Republicans know that if people think seriously about these issues they would lose - that is why they are concentrating on personalities and slowly and systematically making Obama the villain who support sex education to kindergarteners, who raised gas prices even though they are ruling for last eight years and their candidate in the senate for 30 years (whose experience they tout), etc. If personalities is the only criterion, I have to say that I like Obama more since I appreciate the way he rose out of poverty and got great education and despite of lure of earning money (whose pull is more for someone coming out of poor background) he choose to be a community organizer. McCain has a pretty good story himself but he is from a affluent family with political ambitions cultivated from beginning and was taken under wings by bigwigs from early his career - it is nothing wrong but I like a self-made man who can inspire youth and old alike.
On expereince, just having experience is of no use. A president is someone who leads and inspires the nation - he/she does need to have enough experience to allow people judge him - being a state senator and federal senator and being in the national limelight for last 5 years and being under intense media attention for last 18 months, Obama has enough experience to allow people make decision about him. What is the use of having hundred years experience without able to inspire handful of people - lets say Sen. Sessions with hundred years of experience (not exactly but close to) runs for president does he make a good candidate??? Dont you think that Obama has shown enough leadership and inspirational fire in the primaries to be eligible to where he is now.
Both candidates changed their positions and its fair game to discuss - its also good to discuss their stands on various issues (personally I would like to know their stand on immigration in general and EB in particular - but I am sure they both would avoid talking about that) - the thing is, last couple weeks from the time Palin came into picture - issues have taken backseat and republicans seems to be enjoining that. They seems to be following the same tactics that put them in power in last two elections (in '00 the pundits exhorting people to vote for someone with whom they can have a beer with; and then exploit voting and results in one particular state; and in '04 putting mini referundums on gay marriages while the country was in a war and then swift-boat the other candidate) and unfortunately it seems to be working again.
I was Dem leaning too, and I liked Hillary. But Obama has in no way been running the honorable campaign. He is using others to do his dirty job, if you think otherwise, you too have been sold on the propaganda of the left.
yesterday i was reading a commentary by Karl Rove, even he said that McCain's ads went too far. I think that says enough (BTW Karl Rove is master republican strategist whose tactics are famously credited for Bush's second term win - him commenting negatively on a republican candidate and saying that ads are going too far - it wont happen everyday unless they really went toooooo far). I havnt yet seen any sleaze tactics from dem side (yet..atleast).
when obama made a sexist remark, what did the press do? Nothing. I dont know which comment you are talking about. In presidential election time journos wait for a little gaffe and make it out of proportion - even so I dont remember any offending "sexist" comment yet. If you are referring to "lipstick on pig" comment - its laughable to see republican pundits trying to imply that is referring to Palin - he was talking about the new found "change" message and how their new campaing wont change their old policies. Incidentally McCain seems to have made the exact same comment on Hillary herself during primary season. Yeah the same press was sleeping then.
Let us see what happens if his opposition makes a even a hint of racist remark. I am sure then that the republican campaign will be pounded by every media outlet in the country.
Dont even mention about race. We all know that Obama's race is to his disadvantage - just ask elder white voters from south about the prospect of voting to a black candidate named barack obama - whether they say it explicitly or not we all know in our hearts that race does play a role in voting and it is to his disadvantage (I was listening to an NPR public forum where some people insist that Obama is muslim and that is their main concern - this despite of repeated clarifications from him saying that he is a christian and despite of a major controversy surrounding his christian pastor; I wonder if same suspicions would have persisted if its a white candidate named John Smith). The notion created by some pundits that Obama is trying to exploit his race towards his advantage is idiotic in my opinion. Being a racial minority myself with a strange name and an exotic religion (struggling to get a greencard :)) I know what it would have been taken for Obama to came to this stage. I cringe when people suggest that his success is "because" of his race - it is actually in spite of his race and in spite of his poor background (he came from even poorer background than most of members here I guess, he and his mother lived on food stamps for some time). Yes media might have gone overboard about his candidature at some point during primaries - but that honeymoon is long over and in fact these days McCain/Palin are getting a free ticket.
Again, not to say I like republican ideology, I am very left leaning in my thoughts and actions. However at this time, I see that majority of the left is leaning towards Obama just for the sake of leaning towards left, and not on the merits of candidacy.
As I mentioned earlier I am a non-voter, so dont have much stake in this election (considering my GC stage I wont be voting to either of these candidate's second term too). I was just referring to the two candidates and who is running a better campaign. As an independent observer (though slightly dem leaning as you:)) of presidential politics for last several years - I think in the last two elections - trivial/non-sensical matters overshadowed real issues and look what state the country is in. The reason for those two elections getting into trivial issues is not coincidental or is it a fluke. The propaganda artists dominate and try to "manipulate" people opinion. This time I thought it would be different and seemed different for sometime but last couple weeks the same tactics came back and they are firmly followed by McCain without even regretting. That is sad.
If I have had a vote, I would have thought about issues like economy, war, immigration, health care, et al and decided whom to vote. Republicans know that if people think seriously about these issues they would lose - that is why they are concentrating on personalities and slowly and systematically making Obama the villain who support sex education to kindergarteners, who raised gas prices even though they are ruling for last eight years and their candidate in the senate for 30 years (whose experience they tout), etc. If personalities is the only criterion, I have to say that I like Obama more since I appreciate the way he rose out of poverty and got great education and despite of lure of earning money (whose pull is more for someone coming out of poor background) he choose to be a community organizer. McCain has a pretty good story himself but he is from a affluent family with political ambitions cultivated from beginning and was taken under wings by bigwigs from early his career - it is nothing wrong but I like a self-made man who can inspire youth and old alike.
On expereince, just having experience is of no use. A president is someone who leads and inspires the nation - he/she does need to have enough experience to allow people judge him - being a state senator and federal senator and being in the national limelight for last 5 years and being under intense media attention for last 18 months, Obama has enough experience to allow people make decision about him. What is the use of having hundred years experience without able to inspire handful of people - lets say Sen. Sessions with hundred years of experience (not exactly but close to) runs for president does he make a good candidate??? Dont you think that Obama has shown enough leadership and inspirational fire in the primaries to be eligible to where he is now.
Both candidates changed their positions and its fair game to discuss - its also good to discuss their stands on various issues (personally I would like to know their stand on immigration in general and EB in particular - but I am sure they both would avoid talking about that) - the thing is, last couple weeks from the time Palin came into picture - issues have taken backseat and republicans seems to be enjoining that. They seems to be following the same tactics that put them in power in last two elections (in '00 the pundits exhorting people to vote for someone with whom they can have a beer with; and then exploit voting and results in one particular state; and in '04 putting mini referundums on gay marriages while the country was in a war and then swift-boat the other candidate) and unfortunately it seems to be working again.
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jgh_res
07-27 12:28 PM
You may be all right as far as your discussion is concerned but for the following one:
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
1000 people donating 20 bucks each, dude you are day dreaming. If you are seriously into this law suit stuff, be prepared to speand MONEY, TIME, ENERGY of your own and not 20$ from your side.
Did you not hear about how Aman spent 60+K of his own. So.....
I contributed around 300$ till now to IV.
I am one of the several may be thousand who have been affected. I am not using this for my slefish purposes. I am trying to get the suppoprt of IV and its members for this cause. I am not disagreeing with IV in any way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
1000 people donating 20 bucks each, dude you are day dreaming. If you are seriously into this law suit stuff, be prepared to speand MONEY, TIME, ENERGY of your own and not 20$ from your side.
Did you not hear about how Aman spent 60+K of his own. So.....
I contributed around 300$ till now to IV.
I am one of the several may be thousand who have been affected. I am not using this for my slefish purposes. I am trying to get the suppoprt of IV and its members for this cause. I am not disagreeing with IV in any way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
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Eternal_Hope
06-13 10:09 PM
excuse my unfamiliarity with the process..
but if I applied for I485 in July, and 485 applications they receive exceeds the visa numbers available for July, what happens? Do they draw lottery to see which 485 apps would be cosidered?
in other words, just making sure the app reaches USCIS in july first wekk, does it guarantee EAD for spouses?
I have the same question - Do dependent spouses get EAD even if dates retrogress after applying for I-485?
but if I applied for I485 in July, and 485 applications they receive exceeds the visa numbers available for July, what happens? Do they draw lottery to see which 485 apps would be cosidered?
in other words, just making sure the app reaches USCIS in july first wekk, does it guarantee EAD for spouses?
I have the same question - Do dependent spouses get EAD even if dates retrogress after applying for I-485?
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11-03 07:39 PM
If I have filed my EAD and AP after July 30th with new fee for I-485, do I still need to pay fee for EAD and AP renewal?
Thank you in advance.
Thank you in advance.
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saileshdude
09-12 07:42 PM
This is a very common problem. They are not following their own rules when it comes to 180 day rule of I-140 revocation. And I have heard AC21 letter almost never reaches your file. But because you have filed AC21 , you are in good shape. You have all the proof that you did send the AC21 letter and I-140 was revoked after 180 days.
So you will be able to open this case using MTR. Do not worry , you just need good lawyer to represent you.
So you will be able to open this case using MTR. Do not worry , you just need good lawyer to represent you.
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piperwarrior
07-17 07:34 PM
Shows you the general herd mentality on this forum. As long as everyone is thinking the same way, everything is great. If you differ, everyone will call for a ban on you. They are all lemmings. Unfortunately, I had to come to this forum for news. I have never seen such a bunch of dimwitted people in one place...
Hi all, this is the new ID of bigtime007. As many has noticed, I was banned for the following reason:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
Hi all, this is the new ID of bigtime007. As many has noticed, I was banned for the following reason:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
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Totoro
05-28 06:07 PM
Do you think this applies universally or just one off?
Others have been denied. I sent this info to the lawyers to see if it makes any difference to our case.
Others have been denied. I sent this info to the lawyers to see if it makes any difference to our case.
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papyros
09-26 09:12 AM
Guys one philwin associates rep has dissapeared (Mike Venieris) his phone is not working anymore, his email closed and one of his old assistants left the country....so if anyone of you has been scammed pm me to join forces and fight them...
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prashantkh
07-03 04:16 PM
Well thats our fate .. we are always forced to piggyback on a larger issue. With CIR it was illegal immigration, now it is H1-B. But you got to understand that if not for corporate lobbying (who have a heavier stake in H1-Bs) this bill would not have seen the light of day, that too in the house. We got to be thankful we are at least not being treated on par with the illegal aliens .. the broad theme of this bill is highly related to skilled immigration, which is much less controversial than granting citizenship to illegals; not withstanding the tancredos and numbersUSAs who will still be yelling doomsday from the rooftops. Granted we are flying under the radar as usual, but I very much doubt this will be an H1-B only bill without any EB relief.
I agree, lacking enough "pull" either monetarily or numerically puts us at a disadvantage. However, I just read this post from indianindian2006
http://aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=19879
It clearly says that there are provisions to address issues for permanent residency. Two that interests me and most others are:
1) Exemptions for U.S. educated foreign workers with master's or higher degrees from the H-1B and EB green card quotas so their talent can be retained in the United States.
2) Exemptions for EB green card immigrant spouses and children from the annual cap, thus making more visas available for the innovative professionals we need.
So hopefully all is not over yet :) ....
PK
I agree, lacking enough "pull" either monetarily or numerically puts us at a disadvantage. However, I just read this post from indianindian2006
http://aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=19879
It clearly says that there are provisions to address issues for permanent residency. Two that interests me and most others are:
1) Exemptions for U.S. educated foreign workers with master's or higher degrees from the H-1B and EB green card quotas so their talent can be retained in the United States.
2) Exemptions for EB green card immigrant spouses and children from the annual cap, thus making more visas available for the innovative professionals we need.
So hopefully all is not over yet :) ....
PK
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abhijitp
02-18 01:19 PM
Impossible to catch up with you:)
But NORCAL did collect 92 over the last weekend. I collected 40 of those (takes me to 197), the reason to mention this is, it is way too easy for anyone to do this, and people better had strong reasons to not do it!
But NORCAL did collect 92 over the last weekend. I collected 40 of those (takes me to 197), the reason to mention this is, it is way too easy for anyone to do this, and people better had strong reasons to not do it!
mpoov
02-13 03:41 AM
Nurses are already under shortage occupation list, even though some articles says otherwise! Their visas stopped from Ja. 2007. US hospitals will definitley feel the heat within months, since, much awaited their nurses are on hold at their parent country. US Hospitals have already invested funds for their CGFNS, RN. petitoning etc. Their emergency rooms will be overcrowded.. and wards will be shut down.. if visas not approved soon. .. Senators have always soft corner in health industry.. and they will not allow public to feel the heat..Blocking nurses visa will definitely put us in bad picture before the american public..
chanduv23
02-14 03:32 PM
^^^^^^^^
Come on folks, lets make this campaign successful
Come on folks, lets make this campaign successful
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