ItIsNotFunny
03-05 01:13 PM
Based on the reply to this FOIA from Needhelp!, it seems that we have a bigger problem than transparency.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
I think we need to build case with proper arguments and present in front of Ombudsman.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
I think we need to build case with proper arguments and present in front of Ombudsman.
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jayleno
09-21 04:37 PM
Buddy,
If you really dont need a green card, do you really need to be on this forum? Think about it. Nice try though.
If you really dont need a green card, do you really need to be on this forum? Think about it. Nice try though.
yvjoshi100
03-05 12:49 PM
You can count me for contribution.
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santb1975
11-18 11:37 PM
I started with a 20$ recurring contribution and now I contribute 100$. I am not going to wait for the Google Ads to show up on IV and I think every penny I contribute for IV is money well spent for a cause I believe in. At the end of the day I am helping myself and I am also with a group of 23,000. I belive together we can achieve our goals. Please come forward to contribute
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15493
Actually I made mistake in my math,
$20 (2% of $1000 monthly bill) * 2k ( 10% of 20k IV members) = 40K per month
I guess 10% people with $1000 monthly credit card bill is not too optimistic.. is it?
One simple way to measure this is, lets have poll. ( how do you create poll?) I have never done it before.
poll choice should be
Your preference to contribute to IV
Choices are
1) I prefer to contribute $10/20 cash monthly
2) I prefer to use IV branded credit card, Let CC company pay 2% of my cc bill every month.
3) I prefer Google ads on IV website...I promise to click on 10 ads every day ;)
One important question is, does IV loose any charitable(non-profilt) status by issuing a CC?
-Naushit.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15493
Actually I made mistake in my math,
$20 (2% of $1000 monthly bill) * 2k ( 10% of 20k IV members) = 40K per month
I guess 10% people with $1000 monthly credit card bill is not too optimistic.. is it?
One simple way to measure this is, lets have poll. ( how do you create poll?) I have never done it before.
poll choice should be
Your preference to contribute to IV
Choices are
1) I prefer to contribute $10/20 cash monthly
2) I prefer to use IV branded credit card, Let CC company pay 2% of my cc bill every month.
3) I prefer Google ads on IV website...I promise to click on 10 ads every day ;)
One important question is, does IV loose any charitable(non-profilt) status by issuing a CC?
-Naushit.
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vactorboy29
09-27 12:09 AM
I have been dealing with them from two years and so no issues in fact they did the best for me .I would rate them five star with excellence. I know other law firms ...worst than Fragomen.
I am dealing with there Chicago office. Excellent attorney and paralegal assigned for my case.
I am dealing with there Chicago office. Excellent attorney and paralegal assigned for my case.
hopefull
06-08 08:03 PM
CIR is going to be back for sure no doubt about it and when it comes back it is going to be the same bill. Harrry Reid is just creating a drama so that he can reduce the number of amendments introduced by the republicans. There are currently more than 30 to 40 amendments remaining, with this drama harry reid is trying to reduce the amendments to about 5 or 6 more amendments.
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
Has anyone tested it by fluke. What happens if we apply? Have the papers been sent back???? Maybe they ll overlook the date and it might get thru..if I had a i140 approved I would have definitely given it a shot..
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
Has anyone tested it by fluke. What happens if we apply? Have the papers been sent back???? Maybe they ll overlook the date and it might get thru..if I had a i140 approved I would have definitely given it a shot..
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prasadn
03-05 12:10 AM
Guys,,
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
Probably we should aim to get 200 people to contribute $25 each....if we get 100 people in the next two weeks, we can at least get USCIS started on this. I am ready to contribute $25.
Thanks,
Prasad
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
Probably we should aim to get 200 people to contribute $25 each....if we get 100 people in the next two weeks, we can at least get USCIS started on this. I am ready to contribute $25.
Thanks,
Prasad
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gk_2000
03-28 08:32 PM
No its not, this is the 3rd time I've seen you use that and similar signs.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
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rajsand
09-21 10:09 AM
Just an analogy please dont think i am against undocumented fellows.. They are definitely facing a bigger problem than us!
Compare the following
Nondocumented vs. Documented Legals
1] Not well educated / Highly Skilled
2] Not much computer savvy / Mostly everyone should be
3] Not have enough resources to advertise their struggle!
/ Trying all ways to advertise & campaign
4] Do not have enough monetary collection to run a rally / advt /
set up a website
/ Have some collection to do the basics
5] Come here illegally and yet have the courage to demand a legal status openly...
/ Feel shy or sorry for demanding a legal status soon! (for those who dont think
this is worthwhile)
Inspite of all these negatives , they have grouped up so well ! highly commendable. I dont know what we can learn from them, only that they are all in the same boat , but we are in different ones .. as some have got gc, some have got receipts, some are ready to wait as they have just applied, some are just not interested!!
Compare the following
Nondocumented vs. Documented Legals
1] Not well educated / Highly Skilled
2] Not much computer savvy / Mostly everyone should be
3] Not have enough resources to advertise their struggle!
/ Trying all ways to advertise & campaign
4] Do not have enough monetary collection to run a rally / advt /
set up a website
/ Have some collection to do the basics
5] Come here illegally and yet have the courage to demand a legal status openly...
/ Feel shy or sorry for demanding a legal status soon! (for those who dont think
this is worthwhile)
Inspite of all these negatives , they have grouped up so well ! highly commendable. I dont know what we can learn from them, only that they are all in the same boat , but we are in different ones .. as some have got gc, some have got receipts, some are ready to wait as they have just applied, some are just not interested!!
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sunny1000
06-10 01:25 AM
I can tell your case. If you apply now by EB you will get gc within 3 to 7 years time. If you apply by point system after 5 years of USA experience and you will have employer sponsor you will have 16 points more than those who are coming fresh to USA. So both point system and EB system you will get at the same time period. Process delay will be minimal as no labor or I140. But initial period there will be delays as it is entirely new and untested. We cannot compare EB and point system now. Only point system comes we will know the problems
First of all, it is not "my" case. I have been waiting in line for my green card for the past 5 years with my labor stuck in BEC. So, under the current CIR draft, I will be one of the biggest losers as I have not filed for my I-140 and so, my whole application will go down the drain after 5 years of time, money, energy and emotional stress.
How do you come with a math where I will be able to get a GC immediately after 5 years if I apply under the points system? Did you even read the draft bill? How will I or anybody else for that matter, manage for next 5 years without a GC when they are squeezing out the H1B (fee increase, removal of dual intent etc)?? Next would be the per country hard quota that will put us in an eternally long line.
I would definitely compare the current mess of a EB based system with the untested point system and take the current system any time as it is a known devil. The merit system is no angel either. Atleast in the current system, if I wait long enough, I know that my turn will come.
How do you know that process delay would be minimal? USCIS's current delay is not because of process, it is because of the sheer volume of applications and lack of man power. The PERM system takes one month. If you pay premium processing, it takes them 15 days to clear your I-140. So, where is the delay in process? All the delay is from the past backlogs which this bill fails to address and at the I-485 stage where they have to do background checks. That will exist in the points system as well. After you discover the problems in the point system, what will you do then? Ask for another CIR bill??
You don't have to tell what "my" case is. I live my case...
First of all, it is not "my" case. I have been waiting in line for my green card for the past 5 years with my labor stuck in BEC. So, under the current CIR draft, I will be one of the biggest losers as I have not filed for my I-140 and so, my whole application will go down the drain after 5 years of time, money, energy and emotional stress.
How do you come with a math where I will be able to get a GC immediately after 5 years if I apply under the points system? Did you even read the draft bill? How will I or anybody else for that matter, manage for next 5 years without a GC when they are squeezing out the H1B (fee increase, removal of dual intent etc)?? Next would be the per country hard quota that will put us in an eternally long line.
I would definitely compare the current mess of a EB based system with the untested point system and take the current system any time as it is a known devil. The merit system is no angel either. Atleast in the current system, if I wait long enough, I know that my turn will come.
How do you know that process delay would be minimal? USCIS's current delay is not because of process, it is because of the sheer volume of applications and lack of man power. The PERM system takes one month. If you pay premium processing, it takes them 15 days to clear your I-140. So, where is the delay in process? All the delay is from the past backlogs which this bill fails to address and at the I-485 stage where they have to do background checks. That will exist in the points system as well. After you discover the problems in the point system, what will you do then? Ask for another CIR bill??
You don't have to tell what "my" case is. I live my case...
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EndlessWait
01-23 11:05 PM
I�ve been laid off as of Friday last week.
My employer started laying off people an year ago and there were too many cycles so far. I was immune to all those layoffs until Friday. They eliminated everybody in my team, 15 people in total.
I am in the final stage of my GC and I have 2 year EAD. My H1 is expiring in March and my (ex) employer already paid my Attorney for the 3 year extension. They have decided to extend my H1 and paid for the expenses. But in the mean time, they were forced by the investors to show profitability and hence the layoffs.
My (ex) employer is based in Massachusetts and my Labor Certification was done from this location.
I have received job offers from some of my employer�s clients. However, they are based in other States (CO, OH & WA for instance) and they might not be able to do my H1. One of them is interested in hiring me on a contract basis, since they had frozen new hiring.
Is taking a job outside of Massachusetts impact my pending I-485? or Will it violate my Labor Certification conditions? I couldn�t find an answer for this anywhere.
Also, can I take contract jobs for the time being?
I sent out an email to my Attorney with all these questions. But, he is not available until Tuesday next week.
Please post your answers, comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
i work in mass too and i'm facing a similar situation..i'vent sent u a pm . pls look at it
My employer started laying off people an year ago and there were too many cycles so far. I was immune to all those layoffs until Friday. They eliminated everybody in my team, 15 people in total.
I am in the final stage of my GC and I have 2 year EAD. My H1 is expiring in March and my (ex) employer already paid my Attorney for the 3 year extension. They have decided to extend my H1 and paid for the expenses. But in the mean time, they were forced by the investors to show profitability and hence the layoffs.
My (ex) employer is based in Massachusetts and my Labor Certification was done from this location.
I have received job offers from some of my employer�s clients. However, they are based in other States (CO, OH & WA for instance) and they might not be able to do my H1. One of them is interested in hiring me on a contract basis, since they had frozen new hiring.
Is taking a job outside of Massachusetts impact my pending I-485? or Will it violate my Labor Certification conditions? I couldn�t find an answer for this anywhere.
Also, can I take contract jobs for the time being?
I sent out an email to my Attorney with all these questions. But, he is not available until Tuesday next week.
Please post your answers, comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
i work in mass too and i'm facing a similar situation..i'vent sent u a pm . pls look at it
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waitnwatch
05-31 03:40 PM
Where does it say that?REad the page properly..this is still up for consideration..So lets be positive..
102. S.AMDT.1249 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
Sponsor: Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] (introduced 5/24/2007) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 5/24/2007 Senate amendment submitted
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d110:./temp/~bdanzjI:1[1-108](Amendments_For_S.1348)&./temp/~bd2M4C
Here is the link to page 6918 of the congressional record for what happened on May 24. Look at SA 1249 and it shows that the amendment has been "ordered to lie on the table". Also page 6918 and 6919 has the details of the amendment.
The link to page 6918 and 6919 are -
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6918&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6919&position=all
102. S.AMDT.1249 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
Sponsor: Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] (introduced 5/24/2007) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 5/24/2007 Senate amendment submitted
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d110:./temp/~bdanzjI:1[1-108](Amendments_For_S.1348)&./temp/~bd2M4C
Here is the link to page 6918 of the congressional record for what happened on May 24. Look at SA 1249 and it shows that the amendment has been "ordered to lie on the table". Also page 6918 and 6919 has the details of the amendment.
The link to page 6918 and 6919 are -
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6918&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6919&position=all
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Hinglish
03-21 05:49 PM
Your arugment would hold if there were no country limits.
Thats whats amazing ... for the redistribution there is NO country limit !!!!
Thats whats amazing ... for the redistribution there is NO country limit !!!!
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kumarc123
07-15 04:29 PM
My numbers are not 100% accurate , but it gives fair sense of the current situation.
Hello All,
I was reading the posts, I somehow believe there are some variations among EB2 categories, of what we all have been calling I,II or three.
It is not not primarily based on salary only, I believe, it has more to do with the nature of your job, job title, size of the company, type of company, for profit or non-profit.
My wife is a University professor, applied for our GC, EB2 India PD date august2007. We got our labor approved in a less that 2 months, we got our I40 cleared in 5 months, ( applied in January 08 got approved in June).
I believe , we are able to move so fast in this process was mainly because the type of company she works for, in this case the non profit institution.
Now at this point in time, I would like to ask all the gurus, are the dates going to move fast in next few months?
Thanks
Thanks
Hello All,
I was reading the posts, I somehow believe there are some variations among EB2 categories, of what we all have been calling I,II or three.
It is not not primarily based on salary only, I believe, it has more to do with the nature of your job, job title, size of the company, type of company, for profit or non-profit.
My wife is a University professor, applied for our GC, EB2 India PD date august2007. We got our labor approved in a less that 2 months, we got our I40 cleared in 5 months, ( applied in January 08 got approved in June).
I believe , we are able to move so fast in this process was mainly because the type of company she works for, in this case the non profit institution.
Now at this point in time, I would like to ask all the gurus, are the dates going to move fast in next few months?
Thanks
Thanks
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rajeshalex
03-05 10:13 AM
1. Let us decide how we need the data. ie what query USCIS has to run
2 make publicity of this .. ie uscis is an agency which should have the data but it is asking us to pay 5K for the data. (president, hillary clinton, aila and whoever else,...)
3 Only getting this data one time wont help us. Like USCIS processing dates , they have to run our query every month on a particular date and publsh it. Otherwise after 6 months or one year we have to pay this money again.
4 Can we appeal to the money asked by USCIS. Anyone who knows more about FOIA
5 Can we request USCIS to give us the table details and tell them we can write the query/program free of cost.
Any other suggestions..
rajesh
2 make publicity of this .. ie uscis is an agency which should have the data but it is asking us to pay 5K for the data. (president, hillary clinton, aila and whoever else,...)
3 Only getting this data one time wont help us. Like USCIS processing dates , they have to run our query every month on a particular date and publsh it. Otherwise after 6 months or one year we have to pay this money again.
4 Can we appeal to the money asked by USCIS. Anyone who knows more about FOIA
5 Can we request USCIS to give us the table details and tell them we can write the query/program free of cost.
Any other suggestions..
rajesh
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Jaime
09-21 11:14 PM
I am not indian, I am chinese, and I attended the rally in DC. I am so touched by you brave indian people. while I feel such a shame that we only had much less chinese there. part of the reason is that IV is originally indian club. we got the message but kind of lack the close organization.
anyway, I am also thinking about another rally.
1, it has to be on weekends, so everyone can come
2. it should be in multiple cities, from coast to coast, all major cities.
DC. NYC, chicago, LA, SF, houston, boston. reserach triangle, seattle etc, where professional immigrants lives most.
3. we need to make sure everyone will come, need good personal organization, not just voluntarily, we need personal contact, conversation, meetings ahead, level by level, to build a good "relationship" with each other.
yes, this is the hard part.
4. we really need to study the illegal immigrant rally last time, how successful they were !!!!
5. honestly, we didn't get much media coverage. shame ! nothing on TV, newspaper frontpage. but--- if we have a huge rally, everyone will have to cover us, pay attention to us. it all depends on us.
Love you guys
we should hurry up
Dear Elle, 谢谢! for coming and 我们来自许多国家不仅印度! :) For example, I am from Europe/Mexico (long story lol) We need to bring in more of our Chinese friends! What do you suggest? What Chinese organizations can we contact to join with us ad how to we best reach out to our existing Chinese IV members?
anyway, I am also thinking about another rally.
1, it has to be on weekends, so everyone can come
2. it should be in multiple cities, from coast to coast, all major cities.
DC. NYC, chicago, LA, SF, houston, boston. reserach triangle, seattle etc, where professional immigrants lives most.
3. we need to make sure everyone will come, need good personal organization, not just voluntarily, we need personal contact, conversation, meetings ahead, level by level, to build a good "relationship" with each other.
yes, this is the hard part.
4. we really need to study the illegal immigrant rally last time, how successful they were !!!!
5. honestly, we didn't get much media coverage. shame ! nothing on TV, newspaper frontpage. but--- if we have a huge rally, everyone will have to cover us, pay attention to us. it all depends on us.
Love you guys
we should hurry up
Dear Elle, 谢谢! for coming and 我们来自许多国家不仅印度! :) For example, I am from Europe/Mexico (long story lol) We need to bring in more of our Chinese friends! What do you suggest? What Chinese organizations can we contact to join with us ad how to we best reach out to our existing Chinese IV members?
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yabadaba
06-27 09:51 PM
I never imagined that the journey to GC would be such hard, and I have to give my whole life following these notices and EADs and what not. USCIS cannot approve my GC for years and years but now abrubptly they approved my EAD in less than 15 days, when I was expecting to get 2 years extension. My EAD app. was sent out on june 9th and my lawyer told me that they saw approval from yesterday 6/26 (wow 16 days including shipping!!!). USCIS always has hidden agenda, and everybody can tell that it is just money, which leads to such decisions. No body would forget last years july fiasco when they hushed up GC visa numbers for rendering people not to apply before fee hike. The present EAD issues everyone is reporting here is another fiasco. I wonder if there would be barrage of lawsuits for EAD fiasco as we saw last year for july fiasco. Now I understand why USCIS gave themselves time till 30th june, otherwise why wouldn't they make 2 year EADs effective right from the day of announcement in early week of june. Smart move!
Oh well this is what we have to face till we get that "Gone Card"! Day by day my patience is losing. Is it worth all this trouble?
i dont get it...the ead card is valid for a year. you are paying money for 1 year. Instead of being happy that your file has not been lost and have received your ead on time...you are going on a conspiracy theory rant.
Just ask those people who havent received FP notices or havent received their EADs for the last 90 days, what they are going thru. At times we have to count our blessings rather than thinking what we have lost. the 2 year EAD is not your "right." Your "right" is to a 1 year EAD that you PAID for. If one gets a 2 year EAD, its a favor to them done by USCIS.
I dont think one can or should DEMAND favors.
Oh well this is what we have to face till we get that "Gone Card"! Day by day my patience is losing. Is it worth all this trouble?
i dont get it...the ead card is valid for a year. you are paying money for 1 year. Instead of being happy that your file has not been lost and have received your ead on time...you are going on a conspiracy theory rant.
Just ask those people who havent received FP notices or havent received their EADs for the last 90 days, what they are going thru. At times we have to count our blessings rather than thinking what we have lost. the 2 year EAD is not your "right." Your "right" is to a 1 year EAD that you PAID for. If one gets a 2 year EAD, its a favor to them done by USCIS.
I dont think one can or should DEMAND favors.
Imm_Exploited
03-21 12:31 PM
Before others trying to guess which country I belong to, I want to admit that I am from India.
The point I am trying to make is about the categorization of the Employment Based immigration, which in itself is proof of the differences between categories (including the EB-5 or the Religious category) as identified and classified by the USCIS/DOS.
It is altogether a different matter as to what exactly a person classified in a particular category is doing in his/her job.
I would like to question what qualifications some of the CEOs in this country have, who draw undeserving remuneration from their companies. How many of the Bear Stearns employees are immigrants, both who will still be working and those who are already fired or are likely to be fired soon? How may of the those sub-prime loans are taken by illegal or legal immigrants?
Before starting to question me as to how my post relates to immigration, I request every body to critically think and then respond.
Thanks - IE
The point I am trying to make is about the categorization of the Employment Based immigration, which in itself is proof of the differences between categories (including the EB-5 or the Religious category) as identified and classified by the USCIS/DOS.
It is altogether a different matter as to what exactly a person classified in a particular category is doing in his/her job.
I would like to question what qualifications some of the CEOs in this country have, who draw undeserving remuneration from their companies. How many of the Bear Stearns employees are immigrants, both who will still be working and those who are already fired or are likely to be fired soon? How may of the those sub-prime loans are taken by illegal or legal immigrants?
Before starting to question me as to how my post relates to immigration, I request every body to critically think and then respond.
Thanks - IE
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